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well job market in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture in last night's state of the union president obama argued that now is the time to act to curb climate change and to save our environment for future generations so why are we still considering projects like the keystone x.l. pipeline only furthers our nation's toxic addiction to fossil fuels alaska actress and activist daryl and next also in the days and weeks since the newtown shooting tragedy over a thousand americans have lost their lives to gun violence is anything really going to change when might we see the gun control legislation that this nation so desperately needs and president obama called out republicans last night saying that deficit reduction alone is not an economic plan that republicans have any real
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plans to save our economy that and more engine eyes loan liberal rumble. you need to know this in his state of the union address last night president obama took on the quantum of change deniers the fact it's the twelve hottest years on record have all come in the last fifty heat waves droughts wildfires floods all are now more frequent and more intense we can choose to believe that superstorm sandy and the most severe drought in decades and the worst wildfires some states have ever seen were all just a frequency that's. or we can choose to believe in the overwhelming judgment of science and act before it's too late though most of us choose science but the issue
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is what do we do about it it's one thing to pledge a commitment to doing something about climate change it's another thing to actually do something about climate change yes there are some specifics for the sake of our children and our future. we must do more to combat climate change so tonight i propose we use some more oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security trust that will drive new research and technology to shift our cars and trucks off the world for good i'm also issuing a new goal for america let's cut in half the energy wasted by our homes and businesses over the next twenty years sounds like a decent start but given the size of the problem and the consequences of not addressing it we should be looking for more than just decent starts we need urgent revolutionary change in how we generate and consume energy in this nation in twenty years not in ten years now because right now at this rate we're looking at
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a five degree increase in temperatures over the next century when that last happened two hundred fifty million years ago it triggered an event known as the permian extinction that wiped out ninety five percent of all life on the planet it's happening again and we're doing it to ourselves when the president says we must do this for the sake of our children and our future he is very much not exaggerating so the very very least we need to kick our addiction to dirty oil and coal sort of dirty oil is sucked out of the sand in canada put in a pipeline and shipped here where to find it or it chokes out cities in illinois and oklahoma cities in america canada america and billionaires want that same dirty tar sands oil shipped just a little farther south so they can refine it in texas pollute even more americans put it on ships and sell it all over the world except to americans as canada has oil billionaires in texas want it so they can refine it and ship it all over the
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world except back to americans and the rest of us just get a massive rickety pipeline cut right down the center of the country that will likely spill a few dozen times over the next few years are going to the keystone x.l. pipeline a pipeline under construction right now in texas a pipeline that will. the accelerator our global descent into another permian extinction and a pipeline that the president can halt construction on today the same president who said last night that we must do something about climate change for the sake of our children he can stop it but instead today he watched as police outside his home arrested adriatic americans who themselves are trying to stop the pipeline dozens of environmental leaders tied themselves to the white house gates in protest of the keystone x.l. pipeline among those arrested were actress and activist daryl hannah and the executive director of the sierra club michael brune it both joining me now carol michael pleased to have you with us thanks for joining us darryl what you were on
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this program a month or so ago when you were arrested with eleanor fairchild down in texas. what what is driving you what's motivating you and. i like to live. and i hope that this world will thrive in and exist beyond my life and that the only way for that really to happen is for us to stop these crazy extreme extraction practices in thought decimating our ecosystems poisoning our water our land our oil our seed and the living systems that we need to survive and michael what's what's the sierra club's take or yours or both on the president on the one hand given the state of the union address last night and saying essentially enough for the fossil fuels already and then. you know a girl was showing i mean they're actually taking land by eminent domain down the axis to build this dam pipeline it's not like it's so it's being debated i mean
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well this is a lot of this is the great challenge right now is that the president has made two fantastic speeches at the you know gratian and then last night articulating more forcefully than any other president that we have a moral obligation to fight climate change and an economic up. sunidhi when we transition to clean fuels and the president has an enormous amount of executive authority further us down the path of a clean energy future that he's not yet you've not yet utilized president could stop the keystone x.l. pipeline like that the president can stop article oil drilling like that president doesn't have to allow for liquefied natural gas terminals to be built and instead we can embrace clean energy with open arms and really go all in and displace all these dirty fuels at the same time daryl when you were arrested down in texas with eleanor fairchild. that seemed to me like one of those moments that kind of broke
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through for a lot of americans can you just quickly recap what happened and how you got down there and what's going on in texas i was down there to support the tar sands blockade which there was an action with a bunch of people who were trying who are actually blocking the construction of the southern leg of the pipeline which was fast tracked by president obama when he put the rest of the pipeline on hold while the election proceeded so so i was down there to show support to them when they met eleanore and. i came across a bunch of landowners who had had their land taken through eminent domain we were at her house when we heard some of the bulldozers coming through her property and they had taken her her her property bisected her property without her permission and and you know through eminent domain like you said and we went to the south the bulldozers on her land which she still pays taxes for and we were both charged with trespassing on her own property what's her situation right now she just had
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a court date and she's going to be showing up at the action at the demonstration on the seventeenth here in d.c. but she just had a court date and you know this. basically was charged with trespassing on her own land. i mean michael if the president just point out the president fast tracked. texas there are every indication other than the rhetorical ones and even those when it comes to keystone x.l. seem to be lacking is that the president's going to approve this of the administration's going to approve this if that happens a how do you think this is going to play out and b. is it possible if they finish building this thing all the way down to texas and then they start refining oil down in texas and and exporting it out of the united states that as as you know as we move into renewables as the price of oil changes as people start getting horrified that eventually this may just this may be an act an anachronism within a decade or within
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a few years of it is it possible that that could happen that's the case right now and that's why we don't think it'll be built i saw a look at in november of two thousand and eleven the president said we're going to study this more it's going to take us twelve to fifteen months which is where we're at now since then he's been reelected he never has to run for reelection again since then the price of solar has dropped by another thirty percent the price of wind has continued to decline and he finalized a new rule that will double fuel efficiency across the country so we'll be using millions of barrels of oil less every day every day just because of this one rule so we don't need this pipeline we really don't we actually are going to be using fewer oil than ever before and we're going to be transitioning to clean energy that's not the time when you want to build a new pipeline that's the time to double down on clean what you've got some oil billionaires and akin to cope the koch brothers among you know who own refineries down in texas and they can dump all their poisons in the air so the people in the
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easy and east texas get them and they can make a fortune exploit this is canadian oil is cheaper than a lot of other forms of oil so this is relatively inexpensive oil it's profitable to that if they get it to market if they can get a market so so as you have the oil billionaires in one corner. and all of us and the other all the millions of americans who believe in a clean energy future who are actually optimists and know that we can solve this challenge was to open it would have had virtually purchased i mean pretty particular the koch's everybody in the republican party and a good chunk of the democratic party isn't or in my is my is this hyperbole that's what it that's what it seems like to me as well and that's why i think we need people to start speaking out and showing up and demanding the president keeps asking us to push him he says push me and and it has worked in certain cases it worked with equal marriage rights it worked with immigration reform we need to push
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him on this claim he says he will take action on the climate crisis but we need to push him to do that we need to tell him that this is what we want because i think now he may not be worried about reelection but he is going to be worried about his legacy and the fact is that you know you have even china they just built a wind terminal in mongolia that is big enough to power the into an entire country the size of poland and we have the tools at our disposal to move into a clean energy private prosperous future and we need to start doing that and it's just really the with the will to do it we need to insist he take the actions that he talks about. and on sunday will do that so many of your viewers and listeners will be with us on sunday on the national mall the largest climate rally in u.s. history and part of what we're going to be saying is that we're using less oil than we were five years ago we're using less coal than we were five years ago
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a lot of that is because of grassroots activism in towns and cities all across the country people are turning away from fossil you fossil fuels and embracing clean energy or using five times as much solar now than we were at the beginning of the first term of the president twice as much wind as we were at the beginning of the first term of. and the question is do we accelerate that progress or do we spend seven more billion dollars on this pipeline billions more on new fracking infrastructure or do we realize that we shouldn't be making climate change worse michael thank you both for the great work you do in our programming so much stuff. coming up but last year's billion dollar plus presidential campaign was all thanks to the supreme court's citizens united decision in two thousand and ten on it earlier this week it cost to show a memo was introduced in congress that would overturn that decision play all about it right after the break.
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let me let me i want or don't let me ask you a question. here on this network is what we're having the debate we have our knives out. we do this right it's about staying there if you get here it is great we're being i don't want to talk about surveillance we . you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture.
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here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a dog. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares enough to. use. you know what that is my self that wants to feature a liberal and the current. consumers of the system as. you know the corporate media distracts us from what you and i should care about because they're a profit driven industry that sells a sensationalistic garbage he calls it breaking news i'm happy martin and we're going to break this that it's.
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the best of the rest of the news last night's state of the union seemed to be a run of the mill speech and par for the course when it comes to the state of the union but then everything changed when president obama began to address the epidemic of gun violence in this country speech went from ordinary to incredibly emotional just like that take a look ideas parents made clear are in this chamber tonight along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. thank you for your prayers. thank you reserve a thank you really is over. thank you
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both very. much for the leaders here for free by way of reserve a simple thank you yesterday before those stirring moments in the president's speech more than one hundred twenty family members of gun violence victims and survivors survivors of gun violence were in washington d.c. to urge politicians to act to prevent future gun violence tragedies the group of unlikely lobbyists were various memorial will help ins and ribbons as they march through the halls of legislative office buildings and curator on photos of loved ones who were lost to tragic and totally preventable acts of gun violence one of those who reached out here aggression all members yesterday was lori us the virginia organizer for the coalition to stop gun violence and the education fund to stop gun violence perhaps more importantly lori has experienced first hand the pain
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and suffering that results from gun violence and the toll that it takes on families or joins me now in the studio lori welcome thank you for having me thanks for joining us you have a pin with this is. my pen represents virginia tech and that mass shooting that occurred on campus on april sixteenth two thousand and seven that morning my daughter emilie found me and said mommy i've been shot and thrust my family into the gun violence world you know and how it touched our lives and frankly despite our pain and suffering you know we were one of the lucky ones we just kind of odd to say when your daughter's been shot but she lived and she's alive and well and when thirty two other people were killed thirty two other fan. it's more and their loved ones because someone got a gun. what was the message that you were sending to legislators yesterday what were you what were you saying do. we want legislators to listen to
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us we want to be part of the conversation we want to stop the gun violence that just permeates every fabric of our society you know when children can't go to school when students can't be in a college classroom movie theaters and other places where we live in play and shop you know lives are touched by gun violence repeatedly day to day to day something is just tragically wrong with this society that we are not taking care of our loved ones we want to background check we've talked to our legislators for five and a half years since virginia tech we want to background check on all buyers we want to know who is getting the gun we're not trying to stop law abiding citizens from owning a firearm we understand that goes is part and parcel of the second amendment but i would suggest that responsible gun laws to prevent dangerous individuals from having a firearm are not mutually exclusive with the second amendment in the one nine hundred twenty s. we figured other cars are going fast enough that they could cause accidents that
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killed people we start we said three simple things register them prove proficiency to use one get a driver's license and i'm sure that it's just. getting started i guess we already have i'm curious yesterday in your conversations you were here in washington d.c. anything stand out any but any any response that for better or for worse that you'd like to share with those that you think is you know i think that the elected leaders are listening and you know that is a step in the right direction i think they're still caught up with the politics of inside the beltway you know americans don't care frankly you know about the politics inside the beltway we care about our children you know we care about our families our husbands our teacher. there's you know we care about those people who are killed by guns in this country because we don't have a background check on everybody and we want to do what it takes to keep our friends our neighbors our family safe i you know i just can't imagine that people aren't
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willing to undergo a ninety second background check it's harder to get a puppy at the pound than it is to get a firearm in this country it's really quite quite extraordinary do you see any. do you suppose it was actually reverses there was a spokesperson for the n.r.a. yesterday the day before who said that they have this big legislative agenda you know always lobbying that they're going to do more politicians are going to buy you know i'm paraphrasing wildly of course. thought they're going to put on hold for a little while because they're waiting for his phrase the come out at moment to pass do you think this could have a good moment is going to pass absolutely not absolutely not americans are offended and disgusted and just horrified and i believe president biden put it best just the mere thought of trying to imagine a six year old riddled with three six eight some children with
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a love and bullets their bodies were destroyed i think that it just brought it home for americans we collectively see ourselves as parents whether we have biological children or not we all care for our children it's been said it takes a village so you know when someone's child is injured or or sick or in this case killed and murdered or somebody you know with a high powered semiautomatic weapon we're offended were disgusted and we're angry we're frankly angry we are demanding action of our congressional leaders it's been said that they might be fearful of the lobby or it takes courage to have a vote you know fear is not standing up to the gun lobby. that's a six year olds who lost their lives facing you know the bitter end and what is happening to me and encourages is my daughter facing the barrel of a gun and surviving and it was i didn't chumps and those teachers his defenders
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those children that this current you are courage thank you thank you so much me for that i had to be very great work that you're doing ok. now on to some good news about strengthening our democracy ever since the supreme court so this is united decision of twenty ten our elections are now completely out of whack eccentric billionaires like the koch brothers and sheldon eight else and spending literally hundreds of millions of dollars investing in politicians to do their bidding we have endless negative ads paid for by shadowy super pacs or advocacy groups that can i add their donors meaning chinese business tycoons or saudi princes might be meddling in our elections for all we know but ever since the citizens united ruling and frankly even before it a movement has been afoot around the nation to keep corporations out of our democracy led by move to amend dot org hundreds of cities across our nation have passed resolutions to overturn the supreme court's reckless decision and declare
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once and for all corporations are not people and money is not speech it is property and now this movement has hit the united states congress joining me for more on this is david cobb national spokesperson for move to about david welcome. thank you tom it's always a pleasure to be on this program and i just want to thank you for acknowledging that the problem is corporations in our democracy it's not just in elections as horrible as that is it's the fact that these unelected and unaccountable institutions are running our culture our society and our government well and i think we saw an example that just a moment ago with with lori haas whose daughter was shot at a bridge in attacking. and slightly somewhat different issue but it were seen a corporate corruption of our political process and congressman rick nolan and mark polk and have introduced the we the people amendment what to do. in essence it states clearly and unequivocally that only human beings have inherent and a little constitutional rights and that artificial into t's have legal privileges
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according to the statutory process that creates them sometimes i call this the well done a minute because it just states what any six year old or any individual can understand that these corporations don't have the right to overturn public health public safety environmental protection or campaign finance laws the second thing it does is to make it clear as you did that money is not speech and therefore local state and federal governments have the authority indeed i would say the responsibility to pass appropriate campaign finance laws to protect the integrity of the electoral process it really is both that simple and that profound because it addresses the fact that these unelected and unaccountable corporations are stealing our sacred right to self government and what really just outrages me and your viewers and your listeners and people across the country of all parties and persuasions they're using our legal system to legalize the that this amendment will correct that and
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take us into an appropriate place in a constitutional democratic republic that says these are political decisions that need to be hashed out in the political process where we the people are meaning. fully participating not in the courts where we the people just watch from the sidelines while the courts tell us how our country's going to operate so we have a couple of two two members of congress who have introduced this amendment into congress it seems that this is really being driven by a grassroots movement and the grassroots movement is that they're responding to us rather than you know i was going to them. and that's to honor them actually i mean that's their job as representative in the constitution not leader. how far how many communities have adopted these you know variations of this amendment or support of this amendment and where is a going how's that how is how is it going time if it's growing larger stronger and
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getting better organized than anything i've ever been part of and it's going deeper and i appreciate exactly your sentiment your correct that this is being driven by the grassroots and it's two representatives nolan and polk. great honor that they are taking the role that they are taking even recognizing that it's a grassroots movement and to answer your specific question almost five hundred communities have passed these resolutions and we've now put it on the ballot in roughly twenty five jurisdictions across the country including places where republicans dominate the electoral process and tom in every single election we've won most of them in super majorities including in places in the last election where romney won by over sixty percent of the vote when it moved him into languages presented to the voters alongside other election matters we wint so i'm telling you we're just getting started we're off to
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a roaring start and if folks have not joined yet i really want to encourage you to go to the web site. move to amend to sign up because it's not merely a petition tom you know that's an organizing. to we're going to be in touch with you we're going to get you in touch with the over one hundred seventy five local affiliates that are springing up these are ordinary people doing something extraordinary which is to do the educating work to do the analysis to rip away the sure that the layers that if you should ask you this is a movement that we the people are going to take our country back it is it's great and powerful stuff david thank you so much for being with us. again you can help that movement by going to move to amend or after the break millions of americans making minimum wage struggle to survive day to day and are on able to properly provide for themselves and their families president obama suggested a nine dollars minimum wage to try to help these americans to avoid poverty and to
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survive there's a nine hour minimum wage even a possibility given today's political climate. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom foreman welcome to the big picture. solutions.
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the worst you're going to. wipe out superman. because you've never seen anything like this until.
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last night president obama laid out his agenda for his second term the state of the union speech set some ambitious goals to get our nation back on a progressive course list included executive action on climate change a fix of first program to invest in infrastructure and job creation and a legal pathway to citizenship for the eleven million estimated undocumented into individuals living in the united states president is also calling for making high quality early education available to all children and called on congress to bring gun legislation to a vote. but perhaps the biggest news of the evening was obama's call for an increase in the federal minimum wage to nine dollars an hour and to peg it to inflation so republicans play ball well what they do what they've been doing for the last four years which is look out for the billionaire class and try to crash
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the economy to make the president look bad it's to rumble. it's wednesday ready to rumble joining us for its rise alone liberal rabble derek khana conservative columnist and policy expert and neil mccabe senior writer with human events online editor guns and patriots welcome to you both good to be with you tom to this issue so the most noticed were the most noteworthy part of the speech last night was the president's call to raise the minimum wage take a look at this. we know our economy stronger when we reward an honest day's work with honest wages but today a full time worker making the minimum wage earns fourteen thousand five hundred dollars a year even with the tax relief we put in place a family with two kids that earns the minimum wage still lives below the poverty
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line that's wrong tonight let's declare that in the wealthiest nation on earth no one who works full time should have to live in poverty and raise the federal minimum wage to nine dollars an hour so here's an idea that governor romney and i actually agreed on last year. let's tie the minimum wage to the cost of living so that it finally becomes a wage and can live on. so derrick what's wrong with this you know if the minimum wage had been tied to the the it had been indexed to inflation in one nine hundred sixty or sixty one it would be ten dollars and twenty five cents right now and and you wouldn't have as many people living in poverty instead of having the government be in pain people and with medicare and unemployment and food stamps people would be paying the government with taxes. wouldn't that be nice if that were true you have a new yorker set up was ition is highly problematic they did that there'd be less people in poverty is really quite erroneous it was the case that ninety six well
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just because of higher minimum wage doesn't mean that we have less people in poverty in fact quite the opposite we know that when you have the room wage at our current level we're losing jobs overseas particularly to mexico and the idea of increasing our suggestion that we should lower our wages to the mexican minimum wage of a dollar fifty an hour i'm suggesting that the federal government shouldn't be involved in contract arrangements between an employee and their employer and we should recognize that when the federal government is involved they create really perverse incentives and they move labor overseas one one time and one of. only one of us in korea. i think if you want a corporation on a corporation when you go to the government you say i want to incorporate they say we're going to give you a set of privileges right we're going to give you the ability to deduct your meals and your travel and all kinds of cool stuff you can do liability from from the losses in. all we the government are going to give you all these benefits access to
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the courts paid for by the people all the stuff i or they recognize reign of preexisting the government in exchange well you know i was. a philosophical argument that we can get on that if you want ok but i would say government preexisted those but in any case there is this as society but but in any case we say we're going to give you these benefits in exchange for this we would like you to conduct business at least in a way that is not destructive to society is beneficial to society how is it beneficial to society for for there for people to be working at poverty wages while i mean i think john locke was silent on the minimum wage in the united states but surely but to add zama president obama can't hospitably believe that nonsense that he was giving out last night because what if we made the nonsense what we made the minimal. one hundred dollars an hour so we could argue and we could all live like kings it's a stupid argument so what's the difference so i say well what if we made taxes zero and this is this is going to be the same as i never ever do you know exactly your
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to it's the out of out of sergio is i've long since i took latin but then you agree that raising the minimum wage has an effect the effect that it has on the story of a lot of things absolutely but while we're going to let your voice every if you look at every single time the minimum wage has been increased since one nine hundred thirty five within a three year period you see a significant increase in economic activity but then why not continue to expand it wiser no higher threshold why is it dry out what is this growth to try it out because the it well the theory of the minimum wage is that this is basically an entry wage and for much of america that was that has no effect on prices stop it actually what it does is it is it drives economic activity in a positive way no it doesn't have an effect on prices for you can increase wages artificially has no effect on prices you absolutely can what interim within reason with every look at history look at history every time the minimum wage has gone up you have not seen wild inflation what you've seen is that we see good reason and
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get going and get our general workers oh not true what about those high school kids and all the lose their jobs to people other people what you should have an economy where and this is where i work right where i think that they get the government should be good so i should have an economy where people who are in the thirty's forty's and fifty's are working at entry level wages but that's a big no other whole summer until. the writers are going to say we can debate that some other time but but to your point the thing that's the job creators in this economy are the people who spend one hundred percent of their income they're the job creators because they create demand so they go into the local store they go to the local stores and buy things and when they buy things buy in things you know those stores then hire more people pure and sumption tom no savings no investment you know what are some of your same leave it alone. totally you don't want to hundred percent i said well ok the point that i was trying to make is that our job creators are consumers and the biggest job creators in our economy are the minimum
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wage workers and if you give them more what you see is more economic activity history proves this well obviously you can increase federal government spending or tax the private sector talking about federal government i'm going to talk about how it's on the private sector this is absolutely taxed by the private sector this and by extracting more wealth this is not money that's going to the government this is this is money that's going to go on the ballot so you're it's up it's going to it's a mandate absolute's a bet going to want to travel sector no it's not because it's not going to go but it's going from the private sector to the private sector it always doesn't weigh the worry out of the government and go to mcdonald's or buy something that's not but dollars is not the government but how can you argue that the government is an involved in raising the minimum wage. in the government i'm not a good it has to i'm so assuming that the government should be out of all that and so it is that it is in effect a tag like the end point this is through a government feel it is not a tad lawyering it no attack neil taxes when government takes money out of the
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economy to out of the private from live it should move it from the private sector into the public sector but this is the government making sure that the public sector is feeding the pub this is a government making more expenditures on a private company to serve its social economical government saying if you can't run your business in a way that is that is at least reasonable for our society have no damn business running a business so you want to just take over all businesses no i don't want to say this is our minimum wage period ok investments here's here's my eye for eye let's talk about those coverage rashness what about all those degrees was there the president said about government investments that republicans want to cut. we want to make the best products we also have to invest in the best ideas. every dollar we invested to map the human genome returned one hundred forty dollars to our economy every dollar today our scientists are mapping the human brain to unlock
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the answers to all times they're developing drugs to regenerate damaged organs devising new materials to make batteries ten times more powerful. now is not the time to gut these job creating investments in science and innovation now is the time to reach a level of research and development not freed from the height of the space race we need to make ok you guys didn't like government spending is going to go you are trying to go our government spending this is government spending i think it's a brilliant idea we know that there's a multiplier effect when government spends a dollar it produces anywhere from a dollar and a half to four dollars in the economy depending on where it's spent isn't that a good thing well i may disagree with all of us a little bit there are certainly some areas where the federal government can be involved such as the human genome project that i think were successful but just the idea that government spending is inherently good for the economy i don't agree with that and we need roads we need aircraft carriers we have a two and
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a half trillion dollars infrastructure deficiency right now two and a half trillion dollars ever since reagan became president so we're not going to repair anything anymore everything is falling apart you've got stuff to call it here you know there's a broken bridge fix it and there are state local governments who are set up to have trillion dollars of state local knowledge of it is federal property you tell them what the federal in states and billion dollar operations they should maybe fix the bridges and fire services had difference between the states and the federal government there's a huge areas are great states don't issue currency west virginia has been a net importer of currency forever for all practical certainly since the one nine hundred thirty s. we don't sit around and say oh look at west virginia they're going to have to pay that money back someday no we don't we go in and we say you know here's the here's food stamps for your people who will build a bridge or whatever you know we're going to do this there is a role for the federal government in the unless you want to talk less you want to turn the united states into europe and europe west virginia into greece because it's the decision makers basically if people want to invest and make
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a private decision what's a good investment what's not a bad road or a bridge you know what you're talking he's talking about the good the geno but this pays back all this stuff yeah these hacks. they don't know what we have two and a half trillion dollars in core infrastructure that would put ten these are the absence of a level as at the state level well it's at all levels but it could be paid for by the federal government were it over just because they should really be heard it's going to go away when it comes out of ops i'm saying it should come out of the federal pocket because the federal government has the ability to borrow and so you can see in the city they don't see there's a state level in other words it won't happen what you're saying massachusetts can't fix a bridge in massachusetts may well be able to but west virginia can't i think they can for those states have to have a balanced budget so they have to make tradeoffs and they say yes we have a bridge that we haven't fixed in thirty years is it workable or should we spend money on it i we have this november that we need to make what you're arguing for is the articles of confederation you're arguing for the law job and i got it i got it
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all framers in seventeen eighty seven about exactly when and if you put up a toll it has it's happened all around the country when we work on trying that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't hire let's give it a shot but maybe it's part of the mix maybe we should have a balanced approach tom i'm all in favor a balanced approach is that we will leave it at that there it can deal to the top with me appreciate it after the break why are republicans so bad and given responses to the state of the union why do some of them feel the need to reach for water while america's watching it might have something to do with heavy psychedelic usage i'll explain daily take.
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let me let me i want to know we're going to let me ask you a question. here on this network is we're not in the bank we have our knives out. but if you get this right it's a bad thing never get here in this great way of being i don't even talk about the surveillance. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for a length you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything is i don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture.
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the worst. white house superman. minestrone. quite good you've never seen anything like this i'm cold. you know that is while it may seem highly counterproductive the best way for
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president obama to get republican support for an issue may be to oppose it himself at least that's what a new poll from the washington post seems to indicate on issues like immigration and climate change it appears that republicans are more likely to oppose an idea if they believe that the president supports it according to polls sixty percent of republicans support a pathway to citizenship if president obama's name is not included in the question but when the exact same issue was presented with the president obama's name in the proposed law the number of republican support never drops to thirty nine percent that's a twenty one percent drop in support on the exact same issue simply because president obama is associated with and is the think progress blog reminds us a pathway to citizenship is not simply obama's idea there was instituting a health care mandate closing tax loopholes or even increasing gun regulations all of these ideas were supported or even introduced by republicans so president obama
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really wants to get some work done this turn and turn our nation around maybe he said just oppose his own beliefs and policies then the republicans will suddenly become supporters of those policies and congress might finally be able to get stuff done. it's the good the bad and the very very. slowly ugly the good france yesterday the french national assembly voted to approve both marriage equality and same sex adoption of the vote isn't considered all that surprising there was some chance it would pass the bill now goes to the french senate which is also likely to pass should the bill pass the senate be signed into law france would become the twelfth or thirteenth nation to legally recognize same sex marriage as the united kingdom is also currently considering the same legislation same time
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who's going to get it first is the time the united states added its name to that list a majority of americans approve of marriage equality it's time to get it down. the bat diana medley after word spread their group of students was trying to make a gay free prom at a soul of sullivan high school in indiana medley a teacher at that school went on an incredibly homophobic rant in her comments which have gone viral on the web medley argues that our church road is a choice and that gays have no purpose in life since are ignorant and hate filled comments went public numerous groups of called for the school to discipline her or even to have her be fired fact is we trust our nation's teachers to instill good values in our children and to teach them to respect others and to become contributing members of society it's sad that ms medley is teaching our children ignorance and hatred against it. and the very very ugly congressman steve stockman
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stockman was part of a betting pool yesterday run by a texas conservative talk show host over what color congresswoman sheila jackson lee outfit would be at the state of union just minutes before the speech started scott stockman quoted. tweeted quote if you call purple in the sheila pool you want and as if his participation in the pool in his tweet weren't sexist enough and we're not opposed to highly offensive comparison picture of congresswoman lee and grimace the large purple kirk cartoon character from the donald's commercials so another day at the sexist remark coming out of the republican party hope the g.o.p.'s sexes streak stops soon because it's really getting theory perry ugly.
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pretty israel or about her lover caught in a real jail in the long and crazy history of the t.s.a. there have been many security slip ups freakouts and epic fail but now the t.s.a. can add a new security blunder to its list going nuts over peanut butter frank cannibal suing the t.s.a. worker and a port authority of new york worker for five million dollars that's one ton of potter after he was arrested for making a joke about the t.s.a. searching a bottle of peanut butter in his luggage at la guardia airport animal had a bottle of all natural peanut butter separates causing the oil to sit on the top of the bottle naturally the t.s.a. agent assumed the oil could be part of a dangerous and deadly bomb so they examined it and well then made a joke to his family about the t.s.a. searching his explosives and was arrested for making a false claim and sent to jail for twenty five hours and to make the situation worse animal with service and pretty awful you know butter and jelly sandwiches in
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jail animal told the new york daily news that quote the judge would like plus the peanut butter would like god knows what the bread was hard as a walk say has yet to comment on this latest sticky situation. senator marco rubio was apparently high last night yes there was another republican response to the state of the union and yes yet again it was a disaster after watching the president address congress for more than an hour without taking a water break the nation learned tuesday night that marco rubio can't give a five minute speech without awkwardly lungeing off camera what his lips in the short time that i've been here in washington nothing has frustrated me more than
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false choices like the one the president laid out tonight. most of the republican party cringed at the moment muttering to themselves oh no not a good. and right away the media jumped on the offer of peter the meaning that the republican response to the state of the union is a curse on any politician who gives the speech but i'm here to tell you that in fact there's actually a real explanation rooted in science for why republicans can't seem to get the state of the union response right it's highly likely it's because the politicians there over can party chooses every year to give the republicans response to the state of the union are all using a drug known as i will gain ibogaine is a psychedelic drug extracted from the plant that induces wild hallucinations and acts like speed one nine hundred seventy two no doctor journalism hunter s.
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thompson was on the campaign trail reporting on the race for the democratic nomination for president for rolling stone magazine when he suggested that one of the candidates edmund muskie was acting erratically because he was using i will cain thompson described the drug as quote an exotic brand of speed that nobody in the press corps never heard of he added it is entirely conceivable given the known effects of ibogaine that muskies brain was almost paralyzed by all those nations he looked out of that crowd and saw a heap of monsters instead of people is mind napped completely when he felt something a large apparently vicious cause i mean it is like this. thompson claimed he was simply reporting on rumors he heard on the campaign trail regarding musky and the i will gain addiction he later admitted that he was the one started those rumors and in the great tradition of the late one of my personal heroes i think it's entirely possible the republican party is full of i will gain users how else can you explain
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their behavior remember bobby jindal the republican picked to respond to president obama's state of the union in two thousand and nine. good evening and happy mardi gras i'm bobby jindal governor of louisiana tonight we were in his no great moment in the history of our republic in the very chamber work congress once voted to abolish our first african-american president stepped forward to address the state of our union you see gentles i use and inflection i mean how can that guy not be i will cain and then there was michele bachmann giving the tea party response in two thousand and eleven she really just looking at the wrong camera or was she being distracted by a pack a heel a monster's quine toward her just off camera act mashal bachmann looked to be so on so much i will gain after the two thousand and ten midterm elections that chris matthews had to ask her if she was it but just curious if your time is from a christian rock you know you have two times tonight is someone hypnotize you
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because so matter what i ask you you give the same answer do you have the ties to someone put you under a trance tonight would you give me the same answer no matter what question i put to you. know chris i'm not have a tie is that i just feel like i'm talking to a giant squid in a soon. but here's where everything really falls into place one well known side effect of ibogaine you can look it up is dry mouth check out paul ryan during the vice presidential debate he took a water break twenty two different times what's behind the sudden onset of dry mouth you ask i will cain obviously and then there's what happened last night remember all that sweat dripping from marco rubio's brow where you'd be drenched in sweat the fear too if the camera was slowly morphine into a blood thirsty spider between that and the dr rubio couldn't take it any more ed a dive on camera. so yet another republican politician another bought
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a dry mouth and another erratic response to the state of the union and then forget about rand paul's tea party response last night if anyone doubts that rand paul is using i became like the rest of his party i have two words for you aqua buddha look it up i know the drug warriors out there are calling for the republican party to drug test their future state of the union responders just like they want to drug test welfare recipients but instead we should be doing the compassionate thing we should realize that republicans don't live in a reality based or fact based world and it's because of i will again we need to expand obamacare to cover treatment programs for senators so that these helpless republicans can stop embarrassing themselves on national television. so don't worry republicans all those crazy things people riding dinosaurs because the world is only six thousand years old global warming being a hoax john boehner looking like
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a giant care or in a suit all those things are just the result of your i up again yes even the really crazy things i mean the really crazy things like reaganomics and transvaginal probes and wayne la pierre it'll all go away when you get some help for your medical condition we're here for you working to help you with your problem colorado and washington state have already thrown you a lifeline legislating a much less destructive alternative the might even put you in touch with mother earth and help you see the errors of your ways and there's always add in anonymous groups that meet on thursdays in the basement of the reagan republican building just down the street from the capitol. as president obama has said so many times there is hope so don't give in to those he'll monsters chewing on your legs turn far more real than the welfare queens ronald reagan hallucinated or the illegal voters you're working so hard to stop chill out and get some help. and that's the
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will be the. technology innovation all the least of elements from around russia. the future covered. i never knew adam lanza in person but i was in the same high school as that he was younger than me just going to be younger. i always thought he was different i always into something funny he rarely talks and you don't he was a shy kid. i don't know anyone who is friends with him i also don't know of anyone who is particularly mean to the what i do know is that it was very clear that this person was not like everybody else. can imagine the level of mental illness that would be present to murder
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children. america's you know so when you go on this there would be an american behind every tree with a gun. i think for kids growing up in this environment is good for them at an early age to least see the gun and respect it because they need to know what kind of damage it can do. this is our first task as a society. keeping our children safe. this is how we will be judged.

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